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We need to talk about the elephant in the Ne-Fe loop. Or rather, the ghost in the machine. |
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If you are an ENTP, you pride yourself on two things: your ability to see every possible angle (Extraverted Intuition) and your ability to dissect any system for logical flaws (Introverted Thinking). You are the devil’s advocate, the inventor, the person who can argue that black is white and still win the debate. |
But there is one territory you cannot map. One function that sits in your shadow, laughing at you. I am talking about Introverted Feeling (Fi) specifically, the Trickster (also known as the 7th function or the "blind spot"). |
In analytical psychology, the Trickster is not just a weakness. It is a blind spot that actively deceives you. While your inferior function (Introverted Sensing for the ENTP) is something you fear and eventually learn to respect, the Trickster is something you deny exists entirely — until it wrecks your life in slow motion. |
Let’s get specific. Let’s burn down the stereotype of the ENTP as a harmless, quirky debater and look at the wreckage of the Fi Trickster. |
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Part1: Defining the Monster (The Jungian Shadow |
Before we dive into the ENTP’s psyche, let’s establish the terrain. |
The 8-function model (based on the work of Jung and later expanded by figures like John Beebe and Linda Berens) gives each type four conscious functions and four unconscious "shadow" functions. For the ENTP, the conscious stack is: |
1. Ne (Extraverted Intuition) – The Hero. Possibilities, patterns, connections. |
2. Ti (Introverted Thinking) – The Parent. Logic, systems, accuracy. |
3. Fe (Extraverted Feeling) – The Child. Group harmony, social values, reading the room. |
4. Si (Introverted Sensing) – The Inferior. Detail, routine, subjective physical experience. |
The shadow functions are the opposite attitudes of these four. And the most dangerous one for the ENTP is the 7th slot: The Trickster, which is Fi (Introverted Feeling). |
What is Fi? |
For types who lead with Fi (like the INFP or ISFP), Fi is a superpower. It is the ability to know, instantly and without external input, what you value. It is an internal moral compass that says: This matters to me. This is right. This is wrong. I feel this deeply, and I don’t need a reason why. |
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What is the Fi Trickster for the ENTP? |
It is the absence of that compass, but with a cruel twist. The Trickster doesn't just leave you without a compass. It convinces you that compasses are for weak people who can't think logically. It tricks you into believing you have moral clarity when you are actually just borrowing someone else’s emotions (Fe) or rationalizing your own selfishness (Ti). |
The Fi Trickster manifests as: |
1. Inability to identify personal values without external validation. You don't know what you want until someone else tells you what they want, and then you either agree or disagree. |
2. Projecting "bad intent" onto people who use Fi openly. You see an INFP crying over an injustice and think, "They're being manipulative" or "They're not being rational," when in reality, they are just feeling something you cannot access. |
3. A sudden, volcanic explosion of "morality" that is actually just repressed Ti-logic dressed up as outrage. You will scream at someone for violating a "principle" that you invented five minutes ago to win an argument. |
You cannot introspect your way out of this. That's the trick. The more you try to "figure out" how you feel, the more lost you become. It's like trying to bite your own teeth. |
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Part 2: The Daily chaos of the Fi Trickster |
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Let’s get granular. How does this show up in a Tuesday afternoon? Not in a philosophy seminar. In the kitchen. In the bedroom. In the group chat. |
Scenario A: The "What do you want for dinner?" Paradox |
Your partner asks what you want for dinner. Your Ne sees 50 options (Thai? Pizza? A new Ethiopian place? Leftovers but creatively rearranged?). Your Ti analyzes the caloric efficiency, the price-to-enjoyment ratio, and the travel time. Your Fe says, "What do you want, honey?" But your Fi? Silent. |
You don't know what you want because "wanting" implies an internal value hierarchy. ENTPs don't have a hierarchy; they have a web. You end up eating cereal at 9 PM because making a values-based decision (I value health over speed; I value adventure over convenience) feels like pulling teeth with a pair of rusty pliers. |
The Trickster’s whisper: "It doesn't matter what you want. Wants are irrational. Just optimize for the least conflict." |
Scenario B: The Moral Hijacking |
An ENTP friend of mine once argued passionately for two hours that a specific political policy was evil incarnate. He used historical data, logical fallacies, and enough rhetorical flair to make Cicero weep. He cited sources. He dismantled counterarguments. He was magnificent |
The next day, I asked him if he'd signed the petition against the policy. |
He laughed. "Oh, I don't actually care about that policy. I just liked the sound of my own argument. The logic was fun to build." |
That is the Trickster at work. Fi is supposed to be the "conviction" function — the thing that makes you show up to protests or write angry letters or end friendships over a difference in values. When the ENTP lacks Fi, they borrow conviction from the environment (Fe) or create conviction from pure logic (Ti). The result? You become a hypocrite without realizing it. You stand up for "justice" (Fe) but abandon it the second the logic shifts or the social group changes. |
The Trickster’s whisper: "You don't need values. You have arguments. Arguments are better." |
Scenario C: The "Why are you crying?" Disaster |
An INFP (Dominant Fi) is crying because a tree was cut down in their childhood neighborhood. The ENTP walks over, genuinely confused. |
ENTP: "It’s just a tree. It was diseased. The arborist report clearly stated it was a safety hazard. Logically, it had to go." |
INFP: (still crying) "You don't understand. I loved that tree. My dad pushed me on the swing under that tree." |
ENTP: "But love is a chemical reaction designed to promote pair-bonding and resource sharing. We can plant a new tree. A better one. A hybrid with faster growth rates." |
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The ENTP thinks they are being helpful (Ti logic applied to an emotional problem). The INFP hears a sociopath (lack of Fi resonance). The ENTP walks away confused, muttering to themselves, "People are so irrational. I was just stating facts." |
The Trickster has convinced the ENTP that emotions without a logical justification are stupid and should be corrected. Meanwhile, the ENTP’s own emotions are completely invisible to them. |
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Part 3: the ENTP’s relationschip with morality (A horror story) |
Here is the controversial take. Read it twice. |
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The ENTP with an undeveloped Fi Trickster is not "evil." They are morally blind |
Imagine trying to navigate a city when you cannot see the color red. You can still drive. You can still read street signs. But you will run every stop sign not because you want to crash, but because the signal literally does not exist for you. |
That is the ENTP with morality. They can describe moral systems. They can debate utilitarianism vs. deontology for six hours. They can tell you what their parents believe, what their friends believe, and what the logical conclusion of a given premise is. But ask them what they personally believe, and the engine stalls. |
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This leads to the Chameleon of Conviction. |
· At 20, the ENTP dates an activist and becomes a radical revolutionary. They go to protests. They use the right hashtags. They genuinely believe they have found "their truth." |
· At 25, the ENTP gets a corporate job and becomes a ruthless capitalist. They talk about efficiency, markets, and shareholder value. They genuinely believe they have found "their truth." |
· At 30, the ENTP joins a weird online cult (just for the debate, they swear). They learn the jargon. They defend the leader. They genuinely believe they have found "their truth." |
To the outside world, the ENTP looks like a liar, a sellout, or a person with no spine. To the ENTP, they were just "trying on different logical systems" or "adapting to new information." But without Fi, there is no anchor. No "this is wrong because I feel it is wrong in my bones." |
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The Trickster’s favorite lie: "I am above morality. I operate on pure logic." |
The Truth: You are not above morality. You are just terrified of it because you can't measure it with Ti. You can't put "love" under a microscope. You can't weigh "justice" on a scale. So your brain throws the whole category in the trash and calls it "irrational." |
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Part 4: The explosion (When the trickster becomes the Tryant) |
Because the Trickster is in the 7th slot, it is usually dormant. It lives in the basement of your psyche. But under extreme stress. Or when the ENTP feels attacked for their lack of values. the Trickster breaks down the door and takes the wheel. |
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This is the ENTP Rage that few people talk about. |
Usually, the ENTP is charming, laid-back, and playful. But if you poke the Fi Trickster. If you say, "You have no principles" or "You're just arguing to argue" or "You don't actually care about anyone". The ENTP will snap. |
And unlike an ESTJ's Te-rage (efficient, blunt, over quickly) or an INFP's Fi-rage (righteous, tearful, deeply personal), the ENTP’s rage is incoherent. |
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What happens during the Explosion: |
1. They suddenly claim moral high ground they have never mentioned before. ("I have always believed in X!" you have known them for ten years, and they have never once mentioned X.) |
2. They use their Ti to build a fortress of "shoulds" and "should-nots." ("You should have known better. Society should work this way. Any rational person would agree.") |
3. They project their own lack of values onto you. ("You're the one who is selfish! You're the one who doesn't care about anyone but yourself!") |
4. They become weirdly dogmatic. The person who usually says "it depends" now says "it is absolutely this way and any other view is stupid." |
This is the Trickster taking the wheel. It is ugly. It is confusing. And ten minutes later. After they have screamed, maybe thrown something soft, maybe sent a 3 AM text they will regret. The ENTP will feel exhausted and not know why they were so angry. |
They might even laugh it off. "Sorry, that was weird. I don't know what came over me." |
(The INFP will not laugh it off. The INFP will remember this for seven years.) |
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Part 5: How the trickster ruins relationships (the slow bleed) |
Let’s get specific about romantic relationships, because this is where the Fi Trickster does the most damage. |
The ENTP often ends up in relationships with high-Fi users (INFPs, ISFPs, sometimes ESFPs). Why? Because the ENTP is fascinated by Fi. It’s like watching a magician. How do they just know what they feel? How do they make decisions so quickly without running a cost-benefit analysis? |
But the fascination turns into friction. |
The Pattern: |
1. The Chase: The ENTP is drawn to the Fi-user's authenticity and depth. "Finally," the ENTP thinks, "someone who knows what they want." |
2. The Conflict: The Fi-user asks the ENTP, "What do you want? What do you believe? What do you feel about us?" The ENTP freezes. They offer a logical analysis of the relationship ("Well, based on the data, we have a 87% compatibility rating"). The Fi-user feels unseen. |
3. The Blame: The Fi-user says, "You don't have feelings." The ENTP says, "You're too emotional." Both are right. Both are wrong. |
4. The Explosion (see Part 4): The ENTP eventually snaps and accuses the Fi-user of being "manipulative" or "irrational." The Fi-user withdraws in hurt. |
5. The Regret: Three days later, the ENTP realizes they were the asshole. But they don't know why they were the asshole. They just know they feel bad. They apologize using Fe ("I'm sorry I made you feel bad") rather than Fi ("I violated my own value of kindness, and I am genuinely sorry"). |
The relationship doesn't end in a bang. It ends in a slow bleed of small invisibilities. |
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Part 6: How to tame the Trickster |
You cannot kill the Trickster. It is part of your Jungian shadow. It will always be there, whispering, tricking, projecting. But you can stop letting it drive the car. You can learn to recognize its voice and gently push it to the passenger seat. |
Here is the ENTP’s recovery plan. It will feel unnatural. Do it anyway. |
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Step 1: Stop "Thinking" About Feelings |
When someone asks, "How do you feel about that?" — resist the urge to Ti-analyze. |
Do not say: "I feel that this is illogical" or "I feel that the data supports the opposite conclusion." That is not a feeling. That is a thought wearing a feeling's Halloween costume. |
Instead, say: "My stomach is tight" or "I feel warm in my chest" or "I feel tired" or "I feel restless." |
Start with somatic sensations. What is happening in your actual physical body. The body does not lie. The Ne-Ti loop does. If you can name the physical sensation, you are one step closer to naming the emotion underneath. |
Step 2: Borrow an INFP or ISFP (Do Not Debate Them) |
Seriously. Find a high-Fi user. Ideally one who likes you despite your chaos. |
Ask them: "How did you know you valued that thing?" or "How do you tell the difference between a real value and a temporary feeling?" |
Listen. Do not correct. Do not offer a counterexample. Do not say "well, actually." |
Their process will look like witchcraft to you. They will say things like "I just feel it in my heart" and you will want to scream. Accept the witchcraft. They are your Rosetta Stone for the Trickster. Every time you listen without arguing, you build a tiny bridge across the blind spot. |
Step 3: The 24-Hour Value Rule |
When you feel a strong "moral" conviction. Usually after a debate, or after reading an article, or after someone pissed you off, write it down. |
Write down: "I believe that X is wrong because Y." |
Then wait 24 hours. Do not post about it. Do not argue about it. Just wait. |
Read it again the next day. Ask yourself: Do I actually care about this, or was I just defending a rhetorical position? Does this connect to anything I have consistently cared about for more than a week? |
90% of the time, you will realize you were just playing intellectual tennis. Delete the note. Move on. The 10% of the time that the conviction survives 24 hours? That might be a real value. Keep it. Nurture it. It is rare and precious. |
Step 4: Practice Saying "I Don't Know" |
The hardest sentence for an ENTP is: "I don't know what I want, but I know I don't feel good." |
Say it out loud right now. Read it again. "I don't know what I want, but I know I don't feel good." |
It feels like sandpaper on your brain. It feels like admitting defeat. That is the Trickster losing power. You are not admitting that you are stupid. You are admitting that the thing you are trying to measure (your internal emotional state) does not respond to the measuring tool you keep using (Ti). |
Step 5: The "Three Whys" for Emotional Reactions |
When you have a strong negative reaction to someone, especially a high-Fi user. Ask yourself "why" three times. |
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· Reaction: "I hate when INFPs cry about small things." |
· Why #1: "Because it's irrational to cry about a tree." |
· Why #2: "Because I don't understand why they're crying, and not understanding makes me feel stupid." |
· Why #3: "Because I am afraid that if I can't understand their feelings, I am broken or incapable of love." |
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Boom. There it is. The Trickster was protecting you from the fear that your emotional blindness makes you unlovable. Once you see that, the anger often dissolves. |
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Part 7: The gift (yes, there is a Gift |
For all its chaos, for all the missed signals and the exploded arguments and the cereal-for-dinner nights, the Fi Trickster gives the ENTP a superpower that high-Fi users secretly envy. |
Because you are bad at holding onto personal values, you are excellent at forgiving, adapting, and seeing the other side. |
An INFP might cut you off forever because you violated their Fi boundary. An ENTP, once the Fe cools down and they've had a good night's sleep, will say, "Eh, they had a point. I was being a dick. Let's get pizza." |
The Trickster allows you to not take yourself too seriously. |
You will never become a dogmatic tyrant. You will never burn heretics at the stake for disagreeing with your moral code, because you don't have a stable moral code to burn them for. You are the ultimate mediator, the translator between two warring value systems, because you speak neither as a native language. You are the Switzerland of the personality types. |
You can hold paradox. While the Fi-user is saying "this is right and that is wrong," you are saying "it depends on the context, and also maybe both are true, and also can we talk about this third option?" |
That is not a bug. That is a feature. |
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Conclusion: Embrazing the blind spot |
The goal is not to become an Fi-dominant type. You will never be an INFP. You will never cry over a tree (or if you do, you will be deeply confused about it). You will never have a crystal-clear internal moral compass that points north in every storm. |
The goal is to stop being tricked by the Trickster. |
The goal is to recognize the Fi Trickster's voice when it says: |
· "Feelings are stupid." |
· "You don't need values, you have logic." |
· "That person is being manipulative for expressing emotion." |
· "You are above all this moral chaos." |
And then, instead of obeying that voice, you say: "I see you. I know you're trying to protect me from something scary. But I'm going to sit in the discomfort anyway." |
For the ENTP, this means accepting that you will always be a little lost when it comes to your own heart. You will always need external mirrors (Fe) to see what you feel. You will always be tempted to argue for the sake of arguing. You will always have that moment of panic when someone asks, "But what do you want?" |
But next time you feel that volcanic, incoherent rage rise up, that moment where you suddenly care too much about a principle you never mentioned before, pause. |
Take a breath. |
Say hello to the Trickster. |
Offer it a banana. Sit down on the imaginary couch. And for once, don't try to win the argument. Don't try to analyze the feeling. Don't try to build a logical framework. |
Just feel the weird, uncomfortable, illogical weight of having a heart you don't fully understand. |
That is the first step toward actually finding it. |
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Appendix: A cheat sheet for the ENTP in crisis |
The Trickster says... The truth is... What to do instead |
"I don't have feelings. I have thoughts." You have feelings. You just can't name them. Check your body. Tight chest? Hot face? That's a feeling. |
"That person is being irrational." That person is using Fi, a language you don't speak. Ask: "Can you help me understand why this matters to you?" |
"I don't care about X." You probably do care, but caring feels vulnerable. Ask: "If I did care, what would I be afraid of admitting?" |
"Let me argue the other side for a moment." You are avoiding commitment to a position. Ask: "What do I actually believe, not what can I defend?" |
"Why is everyone so sensitive?" You have just triggered your own Fi blind spot. Apologize. Take a walk. Do not debate the apology. |
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Did this hit too close to home? |
If you are an ENTP who just realized you've been projecting your Fi Trickster onto your last three relationships, your political rants, and your strange hatred for people who cry during commercials, welcome. You are not broken. You are just blind in one specific direction. |
Drop a comment. Or don't. You'll probably just argue with me in your head for the next hour and then forget about it by tomorrow. |
I accept that. That's just the Trickster doing its job. |
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Now go eat something other than cereal. |
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